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linadean



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: DL Guard loophole Reply with quote

Hi,

I am about to launch my ebook and I am looking for a way to protect my ebook and I know that we cannot protect it 100%.

Heard about DL guard but not sure whether its a good option, cos it can only protect download links, and I've seen products that uses DLG and yet it is listed on p2p sites.

Is there any other alternative product which can also water mark the product with the customer private info so that he/she will think twice about sharing to p2p sites., beside protecting the download link?

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linadean



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone here uses or know anything about easy click guard?
Is it easy to set it up and if we face any setting up problem, are they sincerely helpful?

Thanks again.
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Harvey Segal
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

linadean wrote:
are they sincerely helpful?

You won't find better support on the whole of the Net
than that provided by the vendor of easyClickGuard

Harvey
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linadean



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Harvey,

Thank You, that's really assuring and I will go over easy click guard one more' time before deciding.


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Adrian Ling
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Linadean,

I'm the creator of easyclickguard and I'd like to clarify just one thing.

easyclickguard cannot prevent a legitimate buyer from downloading your products and then posting it to p2p sites.

No software can do that - once your product has been downloaded by your customers, there's nothing to stop them from uploading it to p2p sites, burning it on a CD, etc.

There will always be a handful of unscrupulous folks who will do that.

My advice is to just ignore such people - and concentrate your time and effort in marketing which will yield better returns.

Download protection scripts such as easyclickguard and DLG will prevent a number of folks from sharing the download link as oppose to uploading to p2p sites (most people are lazy, downloading and uploading to p2p sites is a hassle)


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Adrian
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linadean



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Adrian,

I am really in two minds between DL Guard and easy click guard.

I know I cannot protect my ebook 100%, but at least I could make it a little harder for heartless people to get my ebook for free.

I know you are the creator of EasyClickGuard, but in your honest opinion which is better and why should I chose easyclick guard.

Help me out here please, Thanks.
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Damian Pang
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Maybe I can shed some light for you on this matter.

Firstly, you have to accept that no product can be 100% fully protected from piracy. If not, the multi-billion dollar movie and TV companies won't be suffering so much.

Next, let me dissect both products for you.

As a professional web developer, I have helped numerous customers set up their websites (both ClickBank and non ClickBank) and so I do have a fair amount of experience with both products.

Customer support : Both equally excellent.

Protection and ease of use: Both have been extremely reliable.

Integration with autoresponders: Both are easy to integrate with all the major autoresponder services or software.

Payment providers supported: ECG supports ClickBank, Paypal and 2CO. While DLG supports these 3 and more.

Features: If you are using only ClickBank, then both have about the same features but DLG provides more features when used with other payment providers. DLG also has a simple shopping cart feature (not compatible with ClickBank) and can create standard membership sites. Both will give you good statistical data on your sales etc.

Cost: This is usually the deciding factor for most of my clients. DLG costs almost double as compared to ECG ($127 vs $67). And DLG only allows you to install twice on two domains whereas ECG allows unlimited installations.

My personal advice: If you are selling ebooks and dealing mostly with ClickBank and Paypal, then ECG is probably the way to go in terms of costs and needs. Go with DLG if you need a more robust system to handle extra needs.

With ClickBank, my personal preference is easyClickmate + easyClickguard.

easyClickmate helps to manage and build your affiliates while easyClickguard protects your downloads and help manage your clients.

Here are some ideas and info on easyClickmate:
http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6852
http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6816
http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6179
http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6493
http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6401

easyClickMate + easyClickGuard is the best combo to get:
http://www.easybiztools.com/combo/


Good luck
Damian
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linadean



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Damian,

Thank you for shedding some light on this and I have already made up my mind and will be getting the combo.

I have another question though, I should set up my clickbank vendor's account first, then upload my ebook on my hosting account AND then get easy click guard right?

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Damian Pang
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's actually no real difference in which order you do it.

Most of time I handle the installation and set up before requesting for product approval (mainly because I need to design my clients' sites at the same time). But you can get approved first then install the combo - just remember to change the necessary settings in your CB account.

Good luck
Damian
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linadean



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Damian

Appreciate your help
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linadean



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok got the combo package, and I must say it not as easy as it seems, the installation process.
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Damian Pang
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It always seem tough when you first start dealing with scripts and programs, but these two are considered pretty simple - about the same with installing WordPress on your domain.

If you encounter any problems you can always request support from Adrian or PM me, I am happy to assist you wherever possible.

Cheers
Damian
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Adrian Ling
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Linadean,

Sorry for coming late to the party - had to go offline after I made the post.
I see that Damian has done a great job explaining it to you. (Thanks Damian!)

Here's a quick overview of things to make it clearer.

1. Both ECM and ECG are independent software.
2. ECM (easyclickmate) handles the frontend, and ECG (easyclickguard) handles the backend stuff.

A typical Clickbank Purchase process:
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customer --> clickbank payment --> download page.


With ECM, the process then becomes:
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customer --> clickbank payment --> ECM --> download page.

ECM will automatically redirect customer to the download page you specify in ECM admin panel. This is the same download page/url that was previously in your clickbank account.

*You replace the thankyou url in your clickbank account with ECM link and insert that thankyou url (from your clickbank account) into ECM admin panel.



With ECM + ECG, the process then becomes:
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customer --> clickbank payment --> ECM --> ECG (login page)

ECM will auto redirect customer to ECG login page. The login details of the customer will be displayed on that page as well.

*note: If you want to send the customer to your optin page, you can specify the URL to your optin page in ECG for that product. The process then becomes:

customer --> clickbank payment --> ECM --> ECG --> your optin page

ECG will auto redirect the customer to your optin page. The customer will only see your optin page. In the background, ECG will email that customer their login info.

Hope that helps. If you have any questions or need clarification, please use our support desk - the url is on the user guide.


Best regards,
Adrian
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linadean



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently I have only one product on clickbank, so what should I install?
ECG or ECM?
What if I am still having problems installing?
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Adrian Ling
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan to add more products to your clickbank account, then I suggest installing both as it help your affiliates get use to the system and their affiliate urls.

If you have problem, please use the support desk as mentioned earlier.

This forum is a general discussion area on Clickbank related matters - not a support area for easyclickmate or easyclickguard


Adrian
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